• Tane94 v-6? Why bother?
  • Theflyersfan Well, it's about 100 miles from home and the price is low and I liked the G8 and...oh wait...it's not the V8. And it looks like it was used as a vehicle in a Mad Max movie. And seat belts normally aren't draped across a seat bottom like that. So doing some photo recon work - the seat and bolsters look kind of blown out. Combined with the buckled and wrecked seat belt, I'm thinking 350 pounds of good ol'Kentucky boy who didn't want to listen to a seat belt chime grunted on in and out of there each day. Tim - so, so close with this one!!!
  • Slavuta Kia Soul mostly driven by retirees
  • Wjtinfwb I liked these when new, but a friend that had a GT with the V8 said it was very underwhelming in day to day use and the Pontiac dealer had zero idea how to fix anything that wasn't engine related. He dumped his after 3 years at a huge loss. This one looks beat beyond its miles and age, if transportation is what you need and $3500 is your budget, look for a similar age Accord, Camry, Corolla, etc. Not sexy but won't break you hear and wallet simultaneously.
  • ToolGuy I am boycotting the TTAC Podcast after that last one (shudder), so I will go ahead and chime in here without listening first.If I had a teen and the teen needed a vehicle, here's where I would be:a) Large enough that the kid doesn't start off life thinking that small cars sold in the U.S. are any good or suitable for U.S. roads and other U.S. drivers (for they are not).b) Large enough to have some mass and crumple space when involved in an accident.c) New enough to have airbags and good passive safety features.d) Old enough so that parking lot dings and scratches and minor fender-benders will not be a major issue. (Also save on the insurance, to the extent possible.)e) Enough pre-existing miles that it will require some wrenching and maintenance, which will involve the kid.f) Old enough to not have all the distracting whizbang screens and connectivity (let's focus on your driving, kid).g) New enough to have OBD-II. Old enough to not require registering a new battery and similar frippery.h) ICE powertrain, naturally, so that the kid can truly appreciate the next vehicle, which shall be an EV.i) Underpowered enough to not cause undue heartache.j) Big enough that the fuel bills will sting, every time. (You gonna be a prisoner of the system, kid? Learn sooner than I did.)k) Good outward visibility, no who am I kidding, you can't get that anymore.l) Upscale soft-touch interior materials but only if the kid is a future automotive journalist DON'T DO IT KID. 😉